Sunday 4 March 2018

Which George Palin is which?

We do the best we can with the knowledge that we have at the time and then when new information comes up we have to look at it all over again.

There was a George Palin born in 1805 in Coppenhall to William Palin and Elizabeth Burgess.

There was a George Palin born in 1811 to Nancy Palin in Warmingham.

There was a George Palin born in 1812 in Warmingham to Thomas Palin and Paddey Cooke.

I have wrestled with the above men so many times, it is almost painful!!!

For the longest time the George Palin that married Fanny Cooke in 1836 in Warmingham I had as the son of Thomas Palin and Paddey Cooke and I had also thought that George son of Nancy  went on to marry Sarah Yates in 1839 in Lancashire.  Now I know I was wrong.
I recently found new documentation on the marriage for George Palin and Sarah Yates.


In the above we can see he is states his father is Thomas.

His baptism record shows he was baptised in Warmingham in 1812.

NameGeorge Palin
GenderMale
Baptism Date22 Mar 1812
Baptism PlaceWarmingham, Cheshire, England
FatherThomas Palin
MotherPaddey

In the 1841 census

Name George Paylen
Age 30
Estimated Birth Year abt 1811
Gender Male
Civil parish Eccles
Hundred Salford
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Registration district Salford
Sub-registration district Pendleton
Piece 543
Book 5
Folio 22
Page number 36
Household Members
Name Age
George Paylen 30
Sarah Paylen 25

In the 1851 census


Name George Polin
Age 39
Estimated Birth Year abt 1812
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Sarah Polin
Gender Male
Where born Cheshire, England
Civil parish Liverpool
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps 4824
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Registration district Liverpool
Sub-registration district St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel 1i
Household schedule number 141
Piece 2181
Folio 339
Page number 36
Household Members
Name Age
George Polin 39
Sarah Polin 33
James Polin 9

Can not find in the 1861 census

In the 1871 census

Name George Palm
Age 62
Estimated Birth Year abt 1809
Relation Lodger
Gender Male
Where born Warmingham, Cheshire, England
Civil parish Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish Holy Trinity
Town Liverpool
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Registration district Liverpool
Sub-registration district Islington
ED, institution, or vessel 30
Household schedule number 228
Piece 3791
Folio 123
Page number 44
Name Age 
George Palm 62

Then I have a date of death for him in 1879

Name George Palin
Estimated Birth Year abt 1811
Registration Year 1879
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death 68
Registration district West Derby
Parishes for this Registration District West Derby
Inferred County Lancashire
Volume 8b
Page 433


I now believe that the George Palin that married Sarah Yates was son of Thomas Palin and Paddey Cooke.


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But just to make sure I then went to re-examine George son of Nancy Palin.

He was baptized in Warmingham in 1811.
NameGeorge Palin
GenderMale
Baptism Date02 Jun 1811
Baptism PlaceWarmingham, Cheshire, England
MotherNancy Palin
FHL Film Number1551110

We do not have any mention of the the parents for the Marriage of George Palin and Fanny Cooke.

Name George Palin
Gender Male
Marriage Date 14 Jun 1836
Marriage Place Warmingham, Cheshire, England
Spouse Fanny Cooke
FHL Film Number 1551110
Household Members
Name Age
Fanny Cooke
George Palin


​In the 1841 census

Name George Palin
Age 25
Estimated Birth Year abt 1816
Gender Male
Where born Cheshire, England
Civil parish Warmingham
Hundred Northwich
County/Island Cheshire
Country England
Registration district Nantwich
Sub-registration district Wybunbury
Piece 122
Book 19
Folio 6
Page number 6
Household Members
Name Age
George Palin 25
Fanny Palin 20
James Palin 5
George Palin 1

In the 1851 census
Name George Palin
Age 39
Estimated Birth Year abt 1812
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Fanny Palin
Gender Male
Where born Warmingham, Cheshire, England
Civil parish Warmingham
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps 1041
County/Island Cheshire
Country England
Registration district Nantwich
Sub-registration district Wybunbury
ED, institution, or vessel 1
Household schedule number 20
Piece 2169
Folio 7
Page number 6
Household Members
Name Age
George Palin 39
Fanny Palin 34
James Palin 11
William Palin 8
Joseph Palin 6
Thomas Palin 3
Elizabeth Palin 1

In the 1861 census

Name George Palin
Age 49
Estimated Birth Year 1812
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Fanny Palin
Gender Male
Where born Warmingham, Cheshire, England
Civil parish Warmingham
County/Island Cheshire
Country England
Registration district Nantwich
Sub-registration district Wybunbury
ED, institution, or vessel 19
Household schedule number 50
Piece 2617
Folio 85
Page number 11
Household Members
Name Age
George Palin
Fanny Palin
James Palin
Thomas Palin
Elizabeth Palin
Charles Palin
Ann Palin

Then we have a date of death
Name George Palin
Estimated Birth Year abt 1811
Registration Year 1869
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death 58
Registration district Nantwich
Parishes for this Registration District Nantwich
Inferred County Cheshire
Volume 8a
Page 206

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And finally lets look at the George son of William Palin and Elizabeth Burgess.  He was baptized in 1805 in Coppenhall.  (Coppenhall is beside Leighton)                    

Name George Palin
Gender Male
Baptism Date 17 Nov 1805
Baptism Place Coppenhall, Chester, England
Father William Palin
Mother Elisabeth Palin
FHL Film Number 1655596

The we have his first marriage.

Name George Palin
Gender Male
Marriage Date 09 Jun 1828
Marriage Place Middlewich, Cheshire, England
Spouse Ann Egerton
FHL Film Number 1736869
Household Members
Name Age
Ann Egerton
George Palin


In the 1841 census
Name George Palin
Age 30
Estimated Birth Year abt 1811
Gender Male
Where born Cheshire, England
Civil parish Leighton
Hundred Nantwich
County/Island Cheshire
Country England
Registration district Nantwich
Sub-registration district Nantwich
Piece 117
Book 8
Folio 5
Page number 4
Household Members
Name Age
George Palin 30
Ann Palin 30
Sarah Palin 12
Joseph Palin 10
Elizabeth Palin 7
Betty Palin 5

Ann dies and George remarries - note the fathers name is William



In the 1851 census

Name George Palin
Age 40
Estimated Birth Year abt 1811
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Jane Palin
Gender Male
Where born Leighton, Cheshire, England
Civil parish Leighton
Ecclesiastical parish Leighton cum Minshull Vernon
Town Leighton
County/Island Cheshire
Country England
Registration district Nantwich
Sub-registration district Wybunbury
ED, institution, or vessel 19
Household schedule number 33
Piece 2169
Folio 738
Page number 8
Household Members
Name Age
George Palin 40
Jane Palin 27
William Palin 4 Mo

In the 1861 census - not found

In the 1871 census

Name George Palin
Age 65
Estimated Birth Year abt 1806
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Jane Palin
Gender Male
Where born Leighton, Cheshire, England
Civil parish Leighton
Ecclesiastical parish Leighton and Minsull Vernon
County/Island Cheshire
Country England
Registration district Nantwich
Sub-registration district Nantwich
ED, institution, or vessel 9
Household schedule number 29
Piece 3712
Folio 113
Page number 8
Household Members
Name Age
George Palin 65
Jane Palin 48
David Palin 13
Ralph Palin 10
Alfred Palin 6

Then we have his death

Name George Palin
Estimated Birth Year abt 1806
Registration Year 1877
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death 71
Registration district Nantwich
Parishes for this Registration District Nantwich
Inferred County Cheshire
Volume 8a
Page 244

Even though the 1841 and 1851 census show the wrong date of birth - the 1871 census is closer to his actual date of birth and so does the death record.

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So to recap, the George Palin born in 1805 to William Palin and Elizabeth Burgess married Ann Eggerton in 1828 and then Jane Lathom in 1850.

The George Palin that was born in 1811 to Nancy Palin married Fanny Cooke.

And the George Palin that was born in 1812 to Thomas Palin and Paddey Cooke married Sarah Yates.






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